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How it relates to the dilemma of today’s Iraq-War
I felt had some great explanations of how the Vietnam war should be conducted in term of counterinsurgency, and how it relates to. My book also provided a precise, military point of views on the Vietnam War as a whole that many others had missed. Sometimes, 
an unknown author would presents great wisdom about Vietnam War that many “smart ass” self-proclaimed military-experts in main stream media won’t be able to offer. After reading this book, you will figure out (Not guess) what will happen to the people of Iraq in the coming days. In November of 1968, I can remember the legendary John Paul Vann speaking to the graduated class of newly trained advisors at Di-An, county South Vietnam. “You can win a guerrilla war by dropping bombs from the air, he said. You may kill some of the enemy, but you will alienate the people you are there trying to help, and they will turn against you. John Paul Vann was our Lawrence of Arabia in Vietnam. He spent 10 years there, first as an American infantry officer, then later as the main architect of the Vietnamization/Pacification program that President Johnson confidential assigned. Other words of his I remember were you need to go after the guerrilla with a rifle at the hamlet level and kill them face to face. And to do that effectively, you need local soldiers from the area to assist you. If the locals are properly led and equipped, they will do the job. What Vann was saying seems to me to be applicable to Iraq today. You need the support of the local population and indigenous troops to combat the guerrillas/ terrorists/thugs on their own turf. Large conventional American military infantry units are not necessarily best suited for this task. Most think that it was just the Special Forces who were conducting counter-insurgency operations in Vietnam. Very few have heard about the Vietnamese for American Advisors and the mobile advisory teams (MAT) after 1968, fewer than 5000 assisted, advised, and to use recently coined term, were embedded with a 500,000 Regional Force/Popular Force Army that took the war to the enemy at the local level for a period of over five years.
  There were 354 mobile advisory teams made up of five U.S. Army personnel (two officers and three NCOs) The MAT were really a scaled-down Special Forces team with one of the NCOs being a medic and there was a Vietnamese interpreter for communication purposes, a number of Popular Force Platoons and Regional Force Companies while a member of Advisor Terms 49 and 86. Very little has been written about this little known aspect of the Vietnam War. In the book about John Paul Vann and the advisory effort, “A Bright and Shining Lie,” the big lie is what the author, Neil Sheehan, leaves out of the book. He wrote everything the Permanent Government request for its world’s stratagem. Most of the book deals with the South Vietnamese Army and the advisory effort up to the Tet-
  Offensive in 1968 was sponsored by the Permanent Government with purpose carrying-out the axiom-1 defined; and very little if any detail or mention is given to the many years afterward where the Regional Forces and Popular Forces gave quite a good accounting of themselves against the enemy. Author Sheehan spends the first 700 pages of his book detailing how bad the ARVN troop was up to the end of 1967 (parts of which were falsified the facts) then spends several pages on the Tet-Offensive in early 1968, in which he fails to emphasize that the main fighting units of the Viet Cong army including their commanders and NCOs were eliminated, never again to become a viable fighting force. Some interpret this sound defeat of the Viet Cong as a deliberate attempt by the Hanoi-leaders to eliminate their comrades in the south. Sheehan then skips five years of the war effort where the Regional Forces/Popular Forces held their own against the NVA/VC and defeated them in most of the smaller unnamed battles of the war at the village level. Then he picks up again with the 1972 Easter Offensive where Vann was killed, not by enemy contact, but by a helicopter crash during the monsoon rains?
But the rumor in hindsight the very himself concentrated all B-52 of others Military Zones on focus annihilate NVA three divisions that felt defeated to overrun the city Kontum for the Viet Cong’ Capital in predominance in Paris Talk. Barely 30 pages of Sheehan’ book are devoted to Vann success with Vietnamization. There was hardly mention of the Regional Forces and Popular Forces [RF/PF] the home militias, the little guys in tennis shoes, who inflicted over one-third of the casualties against the enemy.
Taking the fight to the VC at the hamlet and village level, not all the RF/PF were great soldiers, but many of them were if properly led, just as Vann had told to graduated students at the MAT school.
  Nicknamed the Ruff -Puff s, they were not configured to stand up against a large force of NVA regulars, but they could provide security for the locals in a hamlet or village. The local-soldiers either had their families living with them, or in the nearby village. Who better to know when the enemy was coming into a village than those who lived there? There were many times when I knew when the Vietcong were coming into the village at night to recruit or create havoc. And then instead of being ambushed, I and my little band of Popular Force Soldiers became the ambusher. We beat the guerrillas at their own game. We took the night away from them. We no longer patrolled endlessly and aimlessly looking for a needle in a haystack, waiting for the enemy to initiate contact. We waited for them in the darkness of the night, and kicked hell out of them. In today’s military vernacular, we preempted them. That’s how you fight the guerrilla and the terrorist and beat him at his own game.
 
  Now watching news clips on TV as young American Soldiers in Iraq are ambushed by snipers and blown up with the new version of the command controlled booby trap, the IED (Improvised Explosive Device) but how would the young American Soldiers be able to distinguish the Al-Qaida terrorist from a local Iraqi civilization? The simple answer is they can’t. And how do they find the IED? The answer is they can’t unless an informer warns beforehand as to the location. I believe the answer to this problem is found in the type of force that John Paul Vann created in Vietnam, coordinated by CORDS (Civil Operations for Revolutionary Development Support)
So different was this approach to conventional warfare tactics that Vann insisted it be operated under civilian control on equal footing with the military hierarchy. Vann really wanted the U.S. military advisors to be in command of the Ruff -Puff s instead of being advisors, but Robert Komer, the first director of CORDS, resisted this idea.
Vann approach to counterinsurgency was the blending of all civilian agencies in Vietnam under CORDS with a loan of 1800 U.S. military personnel to serve as advisors to local Soldiers to provide security for all aspects of the U.S. effort in Vietnam. These were the front line guys who made up the mobile advisory teams, who moved from one RF/PF unit to another accompanying them on day and night time operations. It seems that’s always waiting for the enemy to ambush Americans in Iraq. The first strike is always thrown by the terrorist, and then we react by sometimes killing Iraqi civilians as the sniper fades away into the crowd. This unfortunate response is, in itself, a tactic of the terrorist/ /insurgent/enemy combatant. If don’t the American need to pre-empt the terrorist as he is preparing the IED to blow up an unsuspecting U.S. Soldier and don’t they need to know that a terrorist cell from outside Iraq has begun operating in a neighborhood? To do so, we need intelligence from the local civilians and Soldiers from the area who understand the language, customs, and dynamics of the local situation, who can easily point out strangers in the area even though they speak the same language, but look different.
The best of the MAT teams helped perform all of the above missions because they lived with their Vietnamese counterparts 24 hours a day, ate their food, got to know their families and developed friendships that last even today, more than three decades, after the war. The Advisors did not retreat back to a secure base camp far removed from the people they were trying to help and defend. So where do we get the local Soldiers in Iraq to perform this mission? As a former Advisor, if we sat in astonishment when we saw the 500,000 man Iraqi Army being disbanded and sent home immediately after Saddam main army collapsed. For the most part, they surrendered without firing a shot. Why send home a trained army, although obviously not well trained according to Western standards, but surely part of them could have been used along the guidelines of the MAT team concept in Vietnam? We realize that all of Saddam army could not have been used like the U.S used the RF/PF in Vietnam, but surely some of them could. It was obvious that a large number of Saddam conscripted forces were not loyal to him.
  We could have had local Iraqi soldiers patrolling under the command of small military advisor teams to help flush out enemy combatants and newly arrived in-country Al-Qaida terrorists. The advisor teams would provide the coordination and communication with the larger American units in the area. This would enhance security for the civilian efforts. The Iraqi civilians must feel safe and secure before a new form of government can develop without the imprint of a terrorist stamp.
We believe that what Vann said in the 1960s in Vietnam is relevant today in Iraq as it relates to counterinsurgency. All the high-tech gadgetry and firepower that our military has today, leaves us relatively helpless when it comes to fighting the insurgent who blends in with the civilian population. An innocent civilian killed translates into a win for the terrorist. To avoid this, it takes the soldier on the ground with a rifle taking the fight to the terrorist, in an area that he previously thought was a safe sanctuary. And to do that, we need local soldiers familiar with the terrain, the language and the customs of the area. John Paul Vann understood that.
The Vietnam Was has been misremembered, misunderstood, and misreported in regard to John Paul Vann effort with Vietnamization and the fighting ability of the South Vietnamese soldier. Author Sheehan has done them a great disservice in his book, A Bright and Shining Lie, from which a movie of like title was made as BAT-21. Few know that the Viet Cong lost the war, and that they were no longer a viable force after 1968. The Viet Cong could not have won the war and bested the South Vietnamese Army in battle. The advisory effort in Vietnam wasn’t perfect, but the South Vietnamese forces held their own in the 1972 Easter Offensive by the North. The South Vietnamese Army (ARVN) was finally defeated in 1975 when they were invaded by the fifth largest army in the world. They were invaded by 17 divisions of the North Vietnamese Army to include over 700 tanks that steamrolled everyone in front of them. The North Vietnamese were still being supplied with war materiel by their allies, the Soviets and Chinese, while the allies of the South Vietnamese, the United States, abandoned them in their hour of need. Personally, I hated like the hell: “It is almost unthinkable and surely unforgivable that a great nation like the United States should leave these helpless allies to the tender mercies of the Communist North Vietnam, but … that is what we did!!! The ARVN were also disadvantaged and vulnerable because they had to defend everywhere, and the NVA could concentrate superior forces at weak points in the South. The myth perpetuated by the antiwar media was that the South Vietnamese military was no good.
  Returned to the province capital of Xuan Loc, Vietnam, in 2002 and visited the large communist cemetery there filled with 5000 graves. This is where the last battle of the Vietnam War was fought, where the 18th ARVN Division defeated three NVA divisions before finally being overrun by 40,000 of the enemy. Would John Vann model of counter 
-insurgency work in Iraq today, that’s a good question, but what is the alternative? The U.S forces, our soldiers now are getting tired, and our forces are being stretched too thin to continue the mission indefinitely. The architect of the 1975 invasion of South Vietnam, North Vietnamese Van Tien Dung, in an indirect manner, gave Vann a complement for his conduct of the pacification program, but in fact this is strictly the pattern-modern President Diem’s Strategic Hamlet Plan. In General Dung’s book, “Great Spring Victory”, he never once mentions revolutionary warfare or the guerrilla tactics of the Viet Cong as aiding him in his final assault on the South. That’s because Vann’s program of Vietnamization had basically wrested control of the south from the guerrillas who we no longer a viable fighting force.
  That’s rather ironic, isn’t it? The myth exists today that peasants wearing rubber tire sandals employing guerrilla tactics won the war in Vietnam. Our officials in Iraq are saying it will take three to five years to build an Iraqi Army. With Vann model, we could have taken the best of the 500,000 former Iraqi military, and put them under the control of U.S. military advisors. Instead of having young American soldiers patrolling the streets of Baghdad and the smaller cities around the country, surely we could have used Iraqi soldiers advised by several thousand American military personnel. Instead, we sent them home to do what? Theoretically like I said, however Permanent Government [War Industries Board Bones] need stirring war for their narrow interest; Unlike Vietnam, there is no outside Army that is going to invade Iraq in division-size strength and overwhelm our military units there. Our powerful and well-trained military units, with the aid of the  British, have already won the big battles of the war. Now we need small units of local soldiers taking the war to the enemy at the village level. I see no other way to preempt the terrorist before he has the time to act.
The small suitcase bomb, the suicide bomber, chemical and germ warfare, and the IED, all weapons used by the terrorists in the 21st century, make it necessary to defend everywhere. The terrorist will always go for the target of opportunity, searching for the most vulnerable target. And this appears to be the difficulty of they are of the future the preempting of the terrorist before he can strike. Or, even before that, having the will and knowledge of how to preempt the terrorist.
 
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*     Re: Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm/Strategic...  vtruong2602  286  Apr 08, 2010 11:16 
     Re: Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm/Strategic...  vtruong2602  280  Apr 12, 2010 08:06 
     Re: Phải Trả Lại Sự Thật Cho Lich-Sữ  vtruong2602  283  Apr 14, 2010 10:16 
     Re: Ai giết Tướng Trịnh Minh Thể  vtruong2602  321  Apr 17, 2010 08:19 
     Re: Phòng 2 Pháp âm mưu ám sát Lansdale  vtruong2602  268  Apr 20, 2010 12:45 
     Re: CIA công cụ bạo hành của WIB Bones  vtruong2602  271  Apr 23, 2010 11:15 
     Re: CIA Công Cụ Bạo Hành  vtruong2602  289  May 04, 2010 20:17 
     Re: CIA Công Cụ Bạo Hành  vtruong2602  275  May 13, 2010 13:19 
     Re: CIA Công Cụ Bạo Hành  lytamhoan  263  May 13, 2010 23:37 
     Re: CIA Công Cụ Bạo Hành  vtruong2602  265  May 20, 2010 09:51 
     Re: CIA Công Cụ Bạo Hành  vtruong2602  277  May 25, 2010 21:09 
     Re: CIA Công Cụ Bạo Hành  vtruong2602  263  Jun 02, 2010 08:22 
     Re: CIA Công Cụ Bạo Hành  vtruong2602  293  Jun 08, 2010 09:05 
     Re: CIA Công Cụ Bạo Hành  vtruong2602  422  Jun 10, 2010 14:23 
     Re: CIA Công Cụ Bạo Hành  vtruong2602  286  Jul 16, 2010 13:44 
     Re: Ðể Ðóng Góp Thêm Phần Sữ Liệu Cận Ðại  vtruong2602  273  Jul 24, 2010 14:22 
     Re: Ðể Ðóng Góp Thêm Phần Sữ Liệu Cận Ðại  vtruong2602  274  Jul 31, 2010 16:17 
     Re: Ðể Ðóng Góp Thêm Phần Sữ Liệu Cận Ðại  vtruong2602  272  Aug 09, 2010 16:19 
     Re: Ðể Ðóng Góp Thêm Phần Sữ Liệu Cận Ðại  vtruong2602  292  Aug 18, 2010 23:42 
     Re: Ðể Ðóng Góp Thêm Phần Sữ Liệu Cận Ðại  vtruong2602  270  Aug 25, 2010 12:13 
     Re: Ðể Ðóng Góp Thêm Phần Sữ Liệu Cận Ðại  vtruong2602  287  Aug 30, 2010 11:36 
     Re: Ðể Ðóng Góp Thêm Phần Sữ Liệu Cận Ðại  vtruong2602  268  Sep 08, 2010 10:54 
     Re: Ðể Ðóng Góp Thêm Phần Sữ Liệu Cận Ðại  vtruong2602  280  Sep 11, 2010 18:57 
     Re: Ðể Ðóng Góp Thêm Phần Sữ Liệu Cận Ðại  vtruong2602  281  Sep 17, 2010 21:31 
     Re: Ðể Ðóng Góp Thêm Phần Sữ Liệu Cận Ðại  vtruong2602  268  Sep 27, 2010 10:36 
     Re: Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm  ankay  288  Sep 27, 2010 14:18 
     Re: Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm  ankay  287  Sep 27, 2010 14:26 
     Re: Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm  ankay  264  Sep 29, 2010 18:11 
     Re: Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm  ankay  282  Sep 27, 2010 15:09 
     Re: Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm  ankay  295  Sep 28, 2010 03:07 
     Re: Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm  ankay  281  Sep 28, 2010 11:21 
     Re: Ai ra lệnh giết TT Diệm, Nhu ?  vtruong2602  276  Sep 28, 2010 18:43 
     Re: Ai ra lệnh giết TT Diệm, Nhu ?  Phamanh  266  Sep 29, 2010 07:55 
     Re: Ðầu mối 2 cái chết của Diệm/Kennedy  vtruong2602  263  Sep 29, 2010 17:05 
     Re: Ai ra lệnh giết TT Diệm, Nhu ?  064008ta  292  Aug 19, 2011 19:09 
     Re: Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm  ankay  263  Oct 07, 2010 18:51 
     Re: Mỹ có tự do về Tin tức tư tưởng?  vtruong2602  277  Oct 02, 2010 22:27 
     Re: TT Ngô Đình Diệm / Refresh lịch...  ntnguye2  289  Oct 07, 2010 20:10 
     Re: De Dong Gop Them Phan Su Lieu Can Dai  vtruong2602  270  Oct 08, 2010 18:00 
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     Re: De Dong Gop Them Phan Su Lieu Can Dai  ankay  276  Oct 22, 2010 00:49 
     Re: Tổng Thống Ngô Đình Diệm  AFAT2  265  Oct 30, 2010 05:42 

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